Comments on: MOOP Map Live 2012: The Day We Fail to Leave No Trace …

By: Lindy Taverner

Lindy Taverner — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:13:06 +0000

What is your theme for 2013? I have an incredible idea…please contact me!!

By: PIKO!

PIKO! — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:48:33 +0000

please share photos of MOOP.
show us what is left behind. show me all these FEATHERS many are flipping out over.
educate me please. i want to know.
tell us what the MOOP is.

most of all, can you tell us the names of some the the camps that are the worst offenders? this might curb undesirable behavior in the future.

a BLACK list if you will…..possibly not grant theme camp permits to camps that do not follow LNT principals.

all this huff about feathers…..please show me some photos of all the noxious feathers. a picture’s worth a thousand words.

thank you for this opportunity so sound off.

mike/ piko

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By: mike mitchell

mike mitchell — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:43:57 +0000

please share photo of MOOP.
show us what is left behind.
tell us what the MOOP is.

most of all, can you tell us the names of some the the camps that are the worst offenders? this might curb undesirable behavior in the future.

a BLACK list if you will…..possibly not grant theme camp permits to camps that do not follow LNT principals.

all this huff about feathers…..please show me some photos of all the noxious feathers. a picture’s worth a thousand words.

thank you for this opportunity so sound off.

mike/ piko

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By: shrink

shrink — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 01:31:28 +0000

this is kind of a duhh answer but I think education is the key. Just reading this thread has made me all that much more conscious about it. Like it’s already been said it must be done in a non-confrontational manner; making people part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Broadcast the problem as an increasingly important issue for the whole community (who knows, that 19yr burner may even start to consider a change) and make people more and more aware of it and of the role they play. Especially at the vehicle parties far down playa. If the vehicles themselves promote it the crowd will be much more receptive. Little by little the word can spread. There will always be those few ones who don’t care and that’s out of our hands so better not focus on those and go for the majority.

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By: 808

808 — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:15:45 +0000

Well, i’m now putting foot in mouth. Apparently a week after our camp was struck, my camp leader did a final moop grid around our camp and found all kinds of trash. most of witch I can only imagine came outta an unraked dune. Even after a extensive 8 person demooping there was still things we missed.
It just goes to show there is always room for improvement. I f we all do our part, and help others to do the same, we can hopefully make restos job easier next year!

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By: Ron

Ron — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:57:55 +0000

I admire the effort the restoration crew makes to purify the playa. I know the cleanup I did in my camp was no fun at all but I did it so that BM can be back another year. Could you clarify the maximum moop allowed? It’s expressed as one square foot per acre but moop isn’t flat. It must be expressed as 1 foot square by xx inches high or something like that. Does someone know the answer? Thanks for the answer and to all who de-moop.

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By: The Hun

The Hun — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:56:25 +0000

808 – Well that’s too bad to hear, I don’t know what staff camps you’re referring to but I trust that you know what you’re talking about! I won’t sugar coat it, that definitely does happen. We try to police each other as much as we can, though.

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By: The Hun

The Hun — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:54:52 +0000

Corvus – That is an unfortunate truth.

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By: 808

808 — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 03:52:20 +0000

Good point corvus. Just because ya been there for a decade doesn’t mean your a burner. It’s a way of life. Not a linnier time thing.

@ the hun….thank you for taking your time to reply to our posts. The staff camps I traversed through were built after my arrival, and deconstructed b4 I left. I’m not referring to the long term dpw camps(they take care of their shit…eventually ;-)

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By: Corvus

Corvus — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:21:17 +0000

@ The Hun (His reply to The Man With No Plan) Radical Inclusion is nice but I am perfectly willing to say the veterans TMWNP alluded to are not burners, but simply people who’ve attended a lot of Burning Manses. Some people just don’t get it.

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