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		<title>By: DigitalDave</title>
		<link>http://blog.burningman.com/2012/08/participate/intellectual-pursuits-at-burning-man-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-64869</link>
		<dc:creator>DigitalDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 04:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I finally stumbled across the Evapotron. The technology exists, but is not being disseminated. What I find most troubling was the lack of emphasis on caring for that nasty brew that lots of folks were tending. I suppose you could just see it as simply yet another way to die in the desert. 

If we are to mimick a sustainable civilization, even for a brief time this needs visibility.  Modern civilization (when early death is no longer a major factor in survival of the community and you don&#039;t need 12 births just to stay even on population count) only starts when you are aware of such things. Most folks have forgotten (or don&#039;t care to know) just how important that plumbing system design is in their home and elsewhere. 

I think this is a teach-able moment.  We have the technology, ready to be shared, duplicated and deployed.

http://www.evapotrons.info/

I&#039;d read on eplaya that anything beyond a simple evap pool was probably not practical. And I just didn&#039;t think any harder about it.

My bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I finally stumbled across the Evapotron. The technology exists, but is not being disseminated. What I find most troubling was the lack of emphasis on caring for that nasty brew that lots of folks were tending. I suppose you could just see it as simply yet another way to die in the desert. </p>
<p>If we are to mimick a sustainable civilization, even for a brief time this needs visibility.  Modern civilization (when early death is no longer a major factor in survival of the community and you don&#8217;t need 12 births just to stay even on population count) only starts when you are aware of such things. Most folks have forgotten (or don&#8217;t care to know) just how important that plumbing system design is in their home and elsewhere. </p>
<p>I think this is a teach-able moment.  We have the technology, ready to be shared, duplicated and deployed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evapotrons.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.evapotrons.info/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d read on eplaya that anything beyond a simple evap pool was probably not practical. And I just didn&#8217;t think any harder about it.</p>
<p>My bad.
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		<title>By: DigitalDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>DigitalDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I spent a few days with these PlayaTel folks and a number of hours on the Baba Deck.  The best fun and conversations on tech topics I&#039;ve had in YEARS.  The playa is many things, my friends. Add to that list - technology test site.  

I absolutely needed to contact the default world on Friday. My dog was in boarding and wasn&#039;t eating. I got a text message via the sketchy cell coverage, but outgoing was failing.  The playaTel folks hooked me up with wireless access to Default so I could use my android Vonage app to call and get a status. If it weren&#039;t for that, exodus for me would have been Saturday afternoon. Instead, I got good news that she did start eating and I could stay &#039;till Monday morn. (Woohoo!)  And then I handed my phone to someone else that needed to call to status a sick family member. After, we were both in a really good place to continue our burn.  And then I went to the Baba Deck.   You would have though I had magnets in my pants. I couldn&#039;t leave.  The vibes were better there than anywhere else, for me. I found my tribe.

The playa is more than art and hedonistic pursuit. It is a community. With community needs. And sometimes the community needs technology to solve problems. I, for one would like to see better grey-water treatment capability.  We could have been better stewards of the playa had there have been a &quot;Grey-water Camp&quot;  and perhaps some sort of collection method. We would have been able to ameliorate some of the dust issues had we a supply of treated water to disperse on the roads.  I&#039;m pretty sure a lot of grey water went directly on the ground, untreated.  I&#039;d call that a preventable crime.

I digress.

I would have a vision for where this goes. All those (poorly bound) schedule books could have been replaced with a Playa-Wiki on local webservers and eliminated un-necessay MOOP. I think the Playa NEEDS a local net. It is the mode of today and the future.  Technology != Default.  I think that to evolve the playa for the next generations and reduce our footprint we should embrace modern solutions rather than reintroduce the luddite mindset. We owe it to the children of the playa.

PlayaTel is a proving ground for that community of the future. Less MOOP. More inter-connected.  A robust framework of utility to call for volunteers in our times of need to accomplish critical community tasks in a timely fashion.

OK. I&#039;ll step off my soapbox. But I&#039;d rather spend days on the Baba Beck than even ten minutes at Moscone Center.  That experience there had more meaning to me than even the Temple burn.  And I found my tribe.

I can be reached on eplaya as Xdominant.  Comments and even flames welcomed.  But I doubt you could discourage my vision with even the best snark you can muster.  

)&#039;(  - Xdominant]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I spent a few days with these PlayaTel folks and a number of hours on the Baba Deck.  The best fun and conversations on tech topics I&#8217;ve had in YEARS.  The playa is many things, my friends. Add to that list &#8211; technology test site.  </p>
<p>I absolutely needed to contact the default world on Friday. My dog was in boarding and wasn&#8217;t eating. I got a text message via the sketchy cell coverage, but outgoing was failing.  The playaTel folks hooked me up with wireless access to Default so I could use my android Vonage app to call and get a status. If it weren&#8217;t for that, exodus for me would have been Saturday afternoon. Instead, I got good news that she did start eating and I could stay &#8217;till Monday morn. (Woohoo!)  And then I handed my phone to someone else that needed to call to status a sick family member. After, we were both in a really good place to continue our burn.  And then I went to the Baba Deck.   You would have though I had magnets in my pants. I couldn&#8217;t leave.  The vibes were better there than anywhere else, for me. I found my tribe.</p>
<p>The playa is more than art and hedonistic pursuit. It is a community. With community needs. And sometimes the community needs technology to solve problems. I, for one would like to see better grey-water treatment capability.  We could have been better stewards of the playa had there have been a &#8220;Grey-water Camp&#8221;  and perhaps some sort of collection method. We would have been able to ameliorate some of the dust issues had we a supply of treated water to disperse on the roads.  I&#8217;m pretty sure a lot of grey water went directly on the ground, untreated.  I&#8217;d call that a preventable crime.</p>
<p>I digress.</p>
<p>I would have a vision for where this goes. All those (poorly bound) schedule books could have been replaced with a Playa-Wiki on local webservers and eliminated un-necessay MOOP. I think the Playa NEEDS a local net. It is the mode of today and the future.  Technology != Default.  I think that to evolve the playa for the next generations and reduce our footprint we should embrace modern solutions rather than reintroduce the luddite mindset. We owe it to the children of the playa.</p>
<p>PlayaTel is a proving ground for that community of the future. Less MOOP. More inter-connected.  A robust framework of utility to call for volunteers in our times of need to accomplish critical community tasks in a timely fashion.</p>
<p>OK. I&#8217;ll step off my soapbox. But I&#8217;d rather spend days on the Baba Beck than even ten minutes at Moscone Center.  That experience there had more meaning to me than even the Temple burn.  And I found my tribe.</p>
<p>I can be reached on eplaya as Xdominant.  Comments and even flames welcomed.  But I doubt you could discourage my vision with even the best snark you can muster.  </p>
<p>)&#8217;(  &#8211; Xdominant
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		<title>By: Cometostay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cometostay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me it&#039;s not a &quot;somewhat lesser known fact that...&quot;  One of the things I love about BM is the intellectual stimulation it provides me (on top of spiritual, metaphysical, etc. but that&#039;s besides the point)  Some of the most enlightening conversations and workshops I&#039;ve attended has been at BM.  Can&#039;t wait to attend AND participate in as many of these talks/workshops as I can this year!  

Btw, echoing others, where does the YURT tour start?!  We&#039;ll be yurt-ing, too, so come check us out! Actually, we don&#039;t know where we&#039;ll be yet :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it&#8217;s not a &#8220;somewhat lesser known fact that&#8230;&#8221;  One of the things I love about BM is the intellectual stimulation it provides me (on top of spiritual, metaphysical, etc. but that&#8217;s besides the point)  Some of the most enlightening conversations and workshops I&#8217;ve attended has been at BM.  Can&#8217;t wait to attend AND participate in as many of these talks/workshops as I can this year!  </p>
<p>Btw, echoing others, where does the YURT tour start?!  We&#8217;ll be yurt-ing, too, so come check us out! Actually, we don&#8217;t know where we&#8217;ll be yet :)
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		<title>By: MAURA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAURA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RED LIGHTNING CAMP HAS AWESOME TALKS, EFT TAPPING, TANTRA, GALACTIC ACTIVATION, CONSCIOUS BIRTHING, YOGA &amp; mORE!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RED LIGHTNING CAMP HAS AWESOME TALKS, EFT TAPPING, TANTRA, GALACTIC ACTIVATION, CONSCIOUS BIRTHING, YOGA &amp; mORE!!!!!
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		<title>By: illuminaughty</title>
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		<dc:creator>illuminaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 03:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a brain in the gut....with the intelligence of the one on our shoulders....but 
different priorities, different operating system, different reason for existing.  
The ants on the page (words) are understood by one brain....honeltly I am more interested in the one I have always listened to which doesn&#039;t form words to speak to me. 
 With only the head we are planar two dimensional...with the gut-brain added we are multi dimensional fancy monkeys......xo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a brain in the gut&#8230;.with the intelligence of the one on our shoulders&#8230;.but<br />
different priorities, different operating system, different reason for existing.<br />
The ants on the page (words) are understood by one brain&#8230;.honeltly I am more interested in the one I have always listened to which doesn&#8217;t form words to speak to me.<br />
 With only the head we are planar two dimensional&#8230;with the gut-brain added we are multi dimensional fancy monkeys&#8230;&#8230;xo
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		<title>By: Frisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rabbit - here is the rest of the information for the Yurt tours:
Host: Lysa “Dazzle”
Location: Silicon Village 6:00 &amp; D

Sorry the formatting got a little screwed up.


To everyone who is debating whether Burning Man is like TED:

Now TED is at Burning Man!  

http://www.tedxblackrockcity.com/

Events, presentations, and workshops all week!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbit &#8211; here is the rest of the information for the Yurt tours:<br />
Host: Lysa “Dazzle”<br />
Location: Silicon Village 6:00 &amp; D</p>
<p>Sorry the formatting got a little screwed up.</p>
<p>To everyone who is debating whether Burning Man is like TED:</p>
<p>Now TED is at Burning Man!  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tedxblackrockcity.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tedxblackrockcity.com/</a></p>
<p>Events, presentations, and workshops all week!
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well!  I notice a dearth of wildlife talks so... If you want to learn about human-wildlife conflict and the CHEETAH come on down to 7:15 and E and ask for Marcy.

There is no spirituality, enlightenment or porta potty talk involved.  I swear.

All cheetah, all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well!  I notice a dearth of wildlife talks so&#8230; If you want to learn about human-wildlife conflict and the CHEETAH come on down to 7:15 and E and ask for Marcy.</p>
<p>There is no spirituality, enlightenment or porta potty talk involved.  I swear.</p>
<p>All cheetah, all the time.
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		<title>By: rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone know where this will happen?? I&#039;m interested...

Title: Yurt Tours
Time: Monday 2pm
Description: Class discussion of history of hexayurts, building materials, design options, anchoring choices, doors and decorating! Followed by tour of several yurts including admission into several yurts – some of which are air conditioned!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know where this will happen?? I&#8217;m interested&#8230;</p>
<p>Title: Yurt Tours<br />
Time: Monday 2pm<br />
Description: Class discussion of history of hexayurts, building materials, design options, anchoring choices, doors and decorating! Followed by tour of several yurts including admission into several yurts – some of which are air conditioned!
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		<title>By: CuriousG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CuriousG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just finished reading Alan Watts and I would love a workshop that leads people on psychedelics to sacred spaces and realizations... not a workshop discussing how it does so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished reading Alan Watts and I would love a workshop that leads people on psychedelics to sacred spaces and realizations&#8230; not a workshop discussing how it does so.
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		<title>By: hyperlocavore</title>
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		<dc:creator>hyperlocavore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 04:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a silly thing to say Pannat. I suppose it&#039;s unclear to you that some of the same people attend both, speak at both...move in the same IRL circles....These people have been talking to each other for 30 years....since before the web had pictures. 

Also I assume you know how intertwined the history of acid and the history of tech in the Bay Area are intertwined?

Shame if you don&#039;t know the roots of the culture you deride so easily...

Anyway.... my advice to you....unclench.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a silly thing to say Pannat. I suppose it&#8217;s unclear to you that some of the same people attend both, speak at both&#8230;move in the same IRL circles&#8230;.These people have been talking to each other for 30 years&#8230;.since before the web had pictures. </p>
<p>Also I assume you know how intertwined the history of acid and the history of tech in the Bay Area are intertwined?</p>
<p>Shame if you don&#8217;t know the roots of the culture you deride so easily&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;. my advice to you&#8230;.unclench.
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