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		<title>By: Sandfly</title>
		<link>http://blog.burningman.com/2012/08/news/whats-that-a-pua-you-say/comment-page-1/#comment-61207</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... sigh.  Once again, we have an official policy at:
http://www.burningman.com/press/pressRandR.html
which is completely unworkable, then we have announcements saying &quot;Of course, we don&#039;t mean THAT.&quot;  This is not rocket science.  Fix the !@#$%^&amp;*! policy to say what you mean.  You never have, and never will, get everyone with a camera to fill out a form, nor could you handle it if we did, so stop publishing a policy that says it is mandatory.

And while you&#039;re at it, make it clear that if you venture outside of your tent you&#039;re nearly certain to end up in somebody&#039;s photo.  &quot;Anyone taking pictures or video at any time should ask the subject of their photo first&quot; is preposterous.  Really ... no photos of anyone parades or performances without interrupting the parade/performance to ask permission of every person involved?  This would not even be safe.  And, if you&#039;re afraid of being outed as a Burner, how exactly does it help if you&#039;re not the &quot;subject&quot; of the photo but you just happen to be in the photo.  Going to Burning Man is a public statement of courage.  Own it, wear a mask, or don&#039;t go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; sigh.  Once again, we have an official policy at:<br />
<a href="http://www.burningman.com/press/pressRandR.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.burningman.com/press/pressRandR.html</a><br />
which is completely unworkable, then we have announcements saying &#8220;Of course, we don&#8217;t mean THAT.&#8221;  This is not rocket science.  Fix the !@#$%^&amp;*! policy to say what you mean.  You never have, and never will, get everyone with a camera to fill out a form, nor could you handle it if we did, so stop publishing a policy that says it is mandatory.</p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, make it clear that if you venture outside of your tent you&#8217;re nearly certain to end up in somebody&#8217;s photo.  &#8220;Anyone taking pictures or video at any time should ask the subject of their photo first&#8221; is preposterous.  Really &#8230; no photos of anyone parades or performances without interrupting the parade/performance to ask permission of every person involved?  This would not even be safe.  And, if you&#8217;re afraid of being outed as a Burner, how exactly does it help if you&#8217;re not the &#8220;subject&#8221; of the photo but you just happen to be in the photo.  Going to Burning Man is a public statement of courage.  Own it, wear a mask, or don&#8217;t go.
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		<title>By: EmmMadame</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmmMadame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes indeed. Anyone taking pictures or video at any time should ask the subject of their photo first. This is as old a principle as the other ten. People need to educated and informed of this. May I take your picture please. Yes? Thank you. No? Ok thank you. 
Simple. Sweet. FUNDAMENTAL. 

It&#039;s not about people living dual lives. And what if they are. This is a safe space to explore even if you are not fully there yet. Play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed. Anyone taking pictures or video at any time should ask the subject of their photo first. This is as old a principle as the other ten. People need to educated and informed of this. May I take your picture please. Yes? Thank you. No? Ok thank you.<br />
Simple. Sweet. FUNDAMENTAL. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about people living dual lives. And what if they are. This is a safe space to explore even if you are not fully there yet. Play.
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		<title>By: Kuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are really only two choices available that even have a ghost of a chance of working out.

1) Ban all cameras and video at BM. If someone is caught all photos and video are deleted and they are ejected from BM and banned from returning.

2) Everyone accepts the fact that they will have pictures or video of them taken and it will end up being available on the internet and their tightly wound boss Bob will see it. Act accordingly. 

Anything other than one of these choices is just living in a dream world that does not exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are really only two choices available that even have a ghost of a chance of working out.</p>
<p>1) Ban all cameras and video at BM. If someone is caught all photos and video are deleted and they are ejected from BM and banned from returning.</p>
<p>2) Everyone accepts the fact that they will have pictures or video of them taken and it will end up being available on the internet and their tightly wound boss Bob will see it. Act accordingly. </p>
<p>Anything other than one of these choices is just living in a dream world that does not exist.
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		<title>By: Moop Maestro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moop Maestro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pick Up Artists make an art out of picking up moop! Come join us for a sunset flashmob moop-mopping-dance-party at Pick Up Artist Camp 10:30 and M! Try out our magentic sweeper bikes, learn the finer points of yarn-chasing, and connect with your fellow moop-maestros! After the dance we&#039;ll all walk to the temple for no reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pick Up Artists make an art out of picking up moop! Come join us for a sunset flashmob moop-mopping-dance-party at Pick Up Artist Camp 10:30 and M! Try out our magentic sweeper bikes, learn the finer points of yarn-chasing, and connect with your fellow moop-maestros! After the dance we&#8217;ll all walk to the temple for no reason.
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		<title>By: Dbag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dbag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My personal policy is not to do anything at burning man I wouldn&#039;t do in defaultia. And yes I have walked naked through a major metropolitan area in the middle of the day. I feel MORE naked pictures should make their way into the mainstream. Then maybe Facebook wouldn&#039;t have to censor photos of women breast feeding and it wouldn&#039;t be  headline news every time a celeb flashed a nip or went sans culottes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal policy is not to do anything at burning man I wouldn&#8217;t do in defaultia. And yes I have walked naked through a major metropolitan area in the middle of the day. I feel MORE naked pictures should make their way into the mainstream. Then maybe Facebook wouldn&#8217;t have to censor photos of women breast feeding and it wouldn&#8217;t be  headline news every time a celeb flashed a nip or went sans culottes.
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		<title>By: Dienekes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dienekes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 06:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfectly stated, DB. The prevalence of cameras at Mardi Gras is putting an end to a lot of public misbehavior too, because a woman can&#039;t look up and wave at somebody on a balcony without three rows of camera-wielding tourists, ready to instantly share all their photos across the internet to all of their buddies back home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfectly stated, DB. The prevalence of cameras at Mardi Gras is putting an end to a lot of public misbehavior too, because a woman can&#8217;t look up and wave at somebody on a balcony without three rows of camera-wielding tourists, ready to instantly share all their photos across the internet to all of their buddies back home.
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		<title>By: wish</title>
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		<dc:creator>wish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 06:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do I feel smarmy for thinking this was an article about Pick Up Artists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I feel smarmy for thinking this was an article about Pick Up Artists?
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very simple.  NEVER take someone&#039;s photo at Burning Man without asking him or her first.  In addition to violating the principle of immediacy, it is also a major inhibiting factor for most Burners that will dramatically affect the principles of radical self-expression and radical inclusion.  No Burner should have to be worried that his activities in Black Rock City could be posted in a venue accessible in the default world (i.e. the internet).  If you want to take pictures of naked people, go to Mardi Gras.  If you want to be naked and be comfortable around naked people and allow all people, including women, to be comfortable and express themselves, go to Burning Man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very simple.  NEVER take someone&#8217;s photo at Burning Man without asking him or her first.  In addition to violating the principle of immediacy, it is also a major inhibiting factor for most Burners that will dramatically affect the principles of radical self-expression and radical inclusion.  No Burner should have to be worried that his activities in Black Rock City could be posted in a venue accessible in the default world (i.e. the internet).  If you want to take pictures of naked people, go to Mardi Gras.  If you want to be naked and be comfortable around naked people and allow all people, including women, to be comfortable and express themselves, go to Burning Man.
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		<title>By: tribecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>tribecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the whole &#039;don&#039;t take my picture!&#039; thing really started to get ugly after about 2001 or so. that&#039;s when you started seeing a good percentage of school teachers on spirt quests who took their tops off as a perverse symbol of empowerment.  when few pics ended up online, they went through the roof.  and now, every person (ie man) with a camera is a pervert.

what happens at burning man DOESN&#039;T stay at burning man.  if you&#039;re pretending to be someone you&#039;re not, it&#039;s going to bite you in the ass in the so-called real world.  if you&#039;re ashamed or frightened that your naked body is going end up online somewhere - don&#039;t get naked.  it&#039;s not that impressive anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the whole &#8216;don&#8217;t take my picture!&#8217; thing really started to get ugly after about 2001 or so. that&#8217;s when you started seeing a good percentage of school teachers on spirt quests who took their tops off as a perverse symbol of empowerment.  when few pics ended up online, they went through the roof.  and now, every person (ie man) with a camera is a pervert.</p>
<p>what happens at burning man DOESN&#8217;T stay at burning man.  if you&#8217;re pretending to be someone you&#8217;re not, it&#8217;s going to bite you in the ass in the so-called real world.  if you&#8217;re ashamed or frightened that your naked body is going end up online somewhere &#8211; don&#8217;t get naked.  it&#8217;s not that impressive anyway.
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		<title>By: Picasso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Picasso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 05:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Will said. Very clear policy thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Will said. Very clear policy thanks.
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