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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having helped my camp for four years, burned now only twice, i may not have as full a perspective as some, but...

My first burn, i connected with my &quot;playa boyfriend&quot;, a man who became my lover and with whom i connected so strongly it kinda scared me. a year and a half later, we&#039;re friends on facebook but barely comment on each other&#039;s lives - yet i know he spends hours chatting with mutual friends. he wasn&#039;t on playa this year, but will be next.

I felt embarrassed and nervous about seeing him on playa for Rites of Passage but he wasn&#039;t able to come. i was relieved in a way when i learned he wouldn&#039;t be there. i was also disappointed in myself for not having been more true to the feelings i had with him, that i had not made them a reason to stay connected with him, but instead let my life get in the way.

When i see him next year, he&#039;ll get a huge hug from me. the love i felt (feel) for him was real and he&#039;ll always be my first Playa Boyfriend. it took a second burn to understand why it&#039;s ok. i had to see the reconnection, the people coming out of the dust with huge smiles for those they haven&#039;t seen in a year (or years), the big wet sloppy kisses, the laughter, the Welcome Home hugs.

As a friend of mine wrote me about this article, &quot;nowhere in the definition of the word &#039;meaningful&#039; will you find the word &#039;permanent&#039;.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having helped my camp for four years, burned now only twice, i may not have as full a perspective as some, but&#8230;</p>
<p>My first burn, i connected with my &#8220;playa boyfriend&#8221;, a man who became my lover and with whom i connected so strongly it kinda scared me. a year and a half later, we&#8217;re friends on facebook but barely comment on each other&#8217;s lives &#8211; yet i know he spends hours chatting with mutual friends. he wasn&#8217;t on playa this year, but will be next.</p>
<p>I felt embarrassed and nervous about seeing him on playa for Rites of Passage but he wasn&#8217;t able to come. i was relieved in a way when i learned he wouldn&#8217;t be there. i was also disappointed in myself for not having been more true to the feelings i had with him, that i had not made them a reason to stay connected with him, but instead let my life get in the way.</p>
<p>When i see him next year, he&#8217;ll get a huge hug from me. the love i felt (feel) for him was real and he&#8217;ll always be my first Playa Boyfriend. it took a second burn to understand why it&#8217;s ok. i had to see the reconnection, the people coming out of the dust with huge smiles for those they haven&#8217;t seen in a year (or years), the big wet sloppy kisses, the laughter, the Welcome Home hugs.</p>
<p>As a friend of mine wrote me about this article, &#8220;nowhere in the definition of the word &#8216;meaningful&#8217; will you find the word &#8216;permanent&#8217;.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the years I&#039;ve become nearly an expert on transient relationships so this, to me, just reads as slightly naive.  I think that you can form real connections with people at burns... certainly that kind of environment has deepened my connection with many people I already knew as well as bringing some new folks into my life... but any kind of transient experience will bring this kind of thing.  It is rare to keep in touch with people you meet in any kind of transitional place... though the ones that you do connect with and do stick around, tend to stick.

I think that it&#039;s best to just understand that all relationships are as they&#039;re supposed to be.  A transforming connection can last a few hours or a few years... and there is nothing less or more about it.  It serves you what you need, no more, no less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the years I&#8217;ve become nearly an expert on transient relationships so this, to me, just reads as slightly naive.  I think that you can form real connections with people at burns&#8230; certainly that kind of environment has deepened my connection with many people I already knew as well as bringing some new folks into my life&#8230; but any kind of transient experience will bring this kind of thing.  It is rare to keep in touch with people you meet in any kind of transitional place&#8230; though the ones that you do connect with and do stick around, tend to stick.</p>
<p>I think that it&#8217;s best to just understand that all relationships are as they&#8217;re supposed to be.  A transforming connection can last a few hours or a few years&#8230; and there is nothing less or more about it.  It serves you what you need, no more, no less.
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		<title>By: Burning Man Memory Dump &#171; contemplation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burning Man Memory Dump &#171; contemplation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] bike &#124; flower head &#124; the wal-mart cart boogie &#124; watermelon and basket o&#8217; chicken man &#124; my burn buddy &#124; hoola-hooping hypnotics &#124; robot heart sunrise party &#124; balloon man &#124; grandma &#124; dusty temple day &#124; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: moondog</title>
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		<dc:creator>moondog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been thinking about this post quite a lot, and appreciate the meaningful comments people have posted. 

First, there&#039;s the behavior that The Hun describes above - how much he likes falling into a deep conversation with a stranger on the playa for a period of minutes or hours, and then parting ways with no contact information exchanged. My first year on the playa I experienced this several times and I confess I found it to be one of the most difficult interpersonal challenges of the BM experience. 

I found myself kind of obsessing about people who had seemed like such kindred spirits, and who had simply disappeared into the dust without looking back. How could they? Were they not feeling it too? Was it something I said?  

With a little more experience I have come to understand that this is one of the signature behaviors on the playa, and that it offers a kind of magic, though it can still be vexing.

In terms of sustaining relationships with those people with whom you DO exchange contact information, just a couple of quick comments. First, let&#039;s not dis Facebook too offhandedly - it offers a real way to stay connected, and there are hidden depths there if you plumb them (instant messaging, sending each other videos, sharing of various kinds). Google+ offers live video connections, even. A private FB or G+ group for your camp or circle can offer real group cohesion across distance and time, and can deepen relationships. 

My experience with being Facebook friends with people I met on the playa is that through the trickle of posts and online interactions I discover that they also have other common interests, or perspectives, or history, or even friends - making for much richer interactions next time we talk or meet.

But more than that, I would offer that if you make a real connection with someone, and want it to be sustained over time and distance, whether you make that connection at Burning Man or at a friend&#039;s wedding or any other temporary gathering, it takes mutual effort and energy. Relationships take work. Sometimes we walk away and savor the memory, and sometimes we choose to put in the effort over Facebbok or through postcards or phone calls or plane tickets. Staying connected to someone is a gift you give them. And we&#039;re expert gift-givers, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking about this post quite a lot, and appreciate the meaningful comments people have posted. </p>
<p>First, there&#8217;s the behavior that The Hun describes above &#8211; how much he likes falling into a deep conversation with a stranger on the playa for a period of minutes or hours, and then parting ways with no contact information exchanged. My first year on the playa I experienced this several times and I confess I found it to be one of the most difficult interpersonal challenges of the BM experience. </p>
<p>I found myself kind of obsessing about people who had seemed like such kindred spirits, and who had simply disappeared into the dust without looking back. How could they? Were they not feeling it too? Was it something I said?  </p>
<p>With a little more experience I have come to understand that this is one of the signature behaviors on the playa, and that it offers a kind of magic, though it can still be vexing.</p>
<p>In terms of sustaining relationships with those people with whom you DO exchange contact information, just a couple of quick comments. First, let&#8217;s not dis Facebook too offhandedly &#8211; it offers a real way to stay connected, and there are hidden depths there if you plumb them (instant messaging, sending each other videos, sharing of various kinds). Google+ offers live video connections, even. A private FB or G+ group for your camp or circle can offer real group cohesion across distance and time, and can deepen relationships. </p>
<p>My experience with being Facebook friends with people I met on the playa is that through the trickle of posts and online interactions I discover that they also have other common interests, or perspectives, or history, or even friends &#8211; making for much richer interactions next time we talk or meet.</p>
<p>But more than that, I would offer that if you make a real connection with someone, and want it to be sustained over time and distance, whether you make that connection at Burning Man or at a friend&#8217;s wedding or any other temporary gathering, it takes mutual effort and energy. Relationships take work. Sometimes we walk away and savor the memory, and sometimes we choose to put in the effort over Facebbok or through postcards or phone calls or plane tickets. Staying connected to someone is a gift you give them. And we&#8217;re expert gift-givers, right?
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		<title>By: Zhust (Jason Olshefsky)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhust (Jason Olshefsky)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with James Maher on the naming: &quot;kindling(s)&quot;.  Your kind kin for the burn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with James Maher on the naming: &#8220;kindling(s)&#8221;.  Your kind kin for the burn.
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		<title>By: edgycathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgycathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 04:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Written with style and wit. My experience was similar to Caveat&#039;s: the playa is a place where you live in the moment, and intimacy happens instantly. I miss that here in default.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Written with style and wit. My experience was similar to Caveat&#8217;s: the playa is a place where you live in the moment, and intimacy happens instantly. I miss that here in default.
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		<title>By: Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having thought about this for several minutes, I&#039;ve actually come full circle to realize that &quot;Embers Only™&quot; (trademark optional) fits perfectly. 

It&#039;s settled. That&#039;s your term. Consider it an early 2012 playa gift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having thought about this for several minutes, I&#8217;ve actually come full circle to realize that &#8220;Embers Only™&#8221; (trademark optional) fits perfectly. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s settled. That&#8217;s your term. Consider it an early 2012 playa gift.
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		<title>By: Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nicely written and thought-provoking article. I have a smattering of both types of playa friends -- those I see in the default world, and those I don&#039;t -- and I like it that way. 

Anyway, here are my contributions re: naming conventions for playa-only friends:

Dustbunnies
Playa Posse
Playa Peeps
Burning Clan
Dustworthies (contraction of &quot;dusty trustworthies&quot;)
Playans (sounds like &quot;Mayans&quot;)
Chilgrims (Like &quot;pilgrims,&quot; but far more congenial toward indigenous peoples)
Thrilgrims (Yep, I&#039;m being lazy)
Embers Only™ (terrible idea, great pun)
Center Champs/Vamps 
En Masse-tronauts
Oz-monauts
Muggles (Note: potential copyright issues)

Great writing, Caveat. Much appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely written and thought-provoking article. I have a smattering of both types of playa friends &#8212; those I see in the default world, and those I don&#8217;t &#8212; and I like it that way. </p>
<p>Anyway, here are my contributions re: naming conventions for playa-only friends:</p>
<p>Dustbunnies<br />
Playa Posse<br />
Playa Peeps<br />
Burning Clan<br />
Dustworthies (contraction of &#8220;dusty trustworthies&#8221;)<br />
Playans (sounds like &#8220;Mayans&#8221;)<br />
Chilgrims (Like &#8220;pilgrims,&#8221; but far more congenial toward indigenous peoples)<br />
Thrilgrims (Yep, I&#8217;m being lazy)<br />
Embers Only™ (terrible idea, great pun)<br />
Center Champs/Vamps<br />
En Masse-tronauts<br />
Oz-monauts<br />
Muggles (Note: potential copyright issues)</p>
<p>Great writing, Caveat. Much appreciated.
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		<title>By: Paul "Big PHREEKY" Neumann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul "Big PHREEKY" Neumann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WoW!
How sad!
My Default World Family is my Burner Family Too!!
At 53 years old I finally have found Peace and acceptance in the Default World because of My Burning Man People! I have a relationship with God, a wonderful wife, and a different Life, because of the unconditional love, friendship and acceptance of my Burner People! 
My Heart breaks for you...........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW!<br />
How sad!<br />
My Default World Family is my Burner Family Too!!<br />
At 53 years old I finally have found Peace and acceptance in the Default World because of My Burning Man People! I have a relationship with God, a wonderful wife, and a different Life, because of the unconditional love, friendship and acceptance of my Burner People!<br />
My Heart breaks for you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Kомиссáр</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kомиссáр</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 19:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is sad that people accept the transience of their relationships made on the Playa. I think to put any energy into something just to let it dissolve indicates the lack of value they placed with it to begin with.

What you are calling Burner Buddies are really just single-serving friends, you can find those anywhere and not just at BurningMan.

I&#039;m not interested in making single-serving friends. If that is all you want, then don&#039;t waste my time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is sad that people accept the transience of their relationships made on the Playa. I think to put any energy into something just to let it dissolve indicates the lack of value they placed with it to begin with.</p>
<p>What you are calling Burner Buddies are really just single-serving friends, you can find those anywhere and not just at BurningMan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in making single-serving friends. If that is all you want, then don&#8217;t waste my time.
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