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		<title>By: Burning Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who the hell are &#8220;Burners,&#8221; anyway?</title>
		<link>http://blog.burningman.com/2011/06/spirituality/confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-41096</link>
		<dc:creator>Burning Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who the hell are &#8220;Burners,&#8221; anyway?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I also didn’t respond because I’d been wrestling with that question for some time … and had no good answer.I know that the most common response is “The 10 Principles,” but … I don’t see it.  I bet [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I also didn’t respond because I’d been wrestling with that question for some time … and had no good answer.I know that the most common response is “The 10 Principles,” but … I don’t see it.  I bet [...]
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		<title>By: Neil Kandalgaonkar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Kandalgaonkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could not agree more! Or maybe I don&#039;t! All hail confusion. Maybe that should be the 0th principle.

Tweeted your line about treating the ineffable as an ATM. That was killer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more! Or maybe I don&#8217;t! All hail confusion. Maybe that should be the 0th principle.</p>
<p>Tweeted your line about treating the ineffable as an ATM. That was killer.
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		<title>By: eyeballs to the skyballs</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyeballs to the skyballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@chickenjohn: template (sp). (maybe).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chickenjohn: template (sp). (maybe).
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		<title>By: Ric Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess all this intellectual stuff is great and all, but I STILL didn&#039;t get the names of the bands.  My head hurts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess all this intellectual stuff is great and all, but I STILL didn&#8217;t get the names of the bands.  My head hurts.
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		<title>By: Marsh Troupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsh Troupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, you are win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you are win.
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		<title>By: simon of the playa</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon of the playa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s too late, we&#039;ve already booked Wayne newton for 2012.


don&#039;t blame the messenger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s too late, we&#8217;ve already booked Wayne newton for 2012.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t blame the messenger.
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		<title>By: Kanizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Bassnectar playing this year?


Seriously though, thank you for this one dear friend.  And thank you Larry for the followup...and thanks to everyone else for the enlightening responses.

I&#039;m on my way to Transformus in a few hours heading up a camp of 60+ folks whose sole mission is to cause mischief and confusion at all hours....THIS, is just the soul-food I needed.]]></description>
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<p>Seriously though, thank you for this one dear friend.  And thank you Larry for the followup&#8230;and thanks to everyone else for the enlightening responses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on my way to Transformus in a few hours heading up a camp of 60+ folks whose sole mission is to cause mischief and confusion at all hours&#8230;.THIS, is just the soul-food I needed.
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		<title>By: chicken john</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicken john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well. What a cop out. Really. You just wave your magic wand of words and say that what can&#039;t be described shouldn&#039;t be described. You package up with a bow the thing that you are explaining can&#039;t be packaged up with a bow by describing how you can&#039;t describe it. You have been hanging around with Larry too long. Maybe. 

Maybe your right to do this. Say this. Maybe it&#039;s your right. Maybe this is the right path. The Zen double speak everything is funny thing. But to defy convention, to chuck all the thinking that got us to this place... the place where we have to build a thing that defies explanation to untangle convention and stasis... but shurly we can do better. Maybe. 

Maybe. Maybe a cop out is what we need. A quick bla bla so we can keep doing whatever it is we do. Maybe this well written, comic, gentle report is too much like the dreaded Larryspeak vomitose-vapid-abyss-doubletalk that has strung along a generation of people excited to change the world only to find that in order to do that we need a strong visionary leader who is intelligent and actually likes people and participates in the culture that he/she is a cheerleader of. 

Maybe it&#039;s not. Maybe this is a great essay. Maybe Caveat can lead us! Maybe these words solve all our problems, and allow BM to be more then a good job for 30 people and Caveat can be the funny, fun, charming leader guy that we&#039;ve needed for 20 years... maybe. Maybe this is the break we&#039;ve been waiting for. 

Maybe. 

Maybe there are too many fucking maybe&#039;s in this. Maybe there is too much ambiguity. Maybe we need, no, maybe we DESERVE solid answers. Solid commitments. Absolutes. But absolutes are the opposite of possibility&#039;s. And that is exactly what Burning Man is: an engine of possibility. And a pretty big one at that. 

Burning Man is a populist art gathering that manifests as an engine of possibility created by a templet for unrestricted generosity outside of commerce. 

There. I said it. 

I for one can hardly wait for the regime change, if it happens at all (which I bet it won&#039;t). It will be so great if the people who were running BM were fun. Young and fun. They won&#039;t let it happen, of course. They will control it to the very last, and set it up so it&#039;s still somehow under their control even after they pass. 

But if this essay is part of the new thinking at BM, I&#039;m in. If this is the person who is talking to the press, that&#039;s great. If we can only get this guy to talk to Time Magazine maybe people wouldn&#039;t be embarrassed by the leadership of the culture we all built together. A culture of liberty and expression and tolerance unlike the world has ever known. 

If only we had a proper constitution and the board members of the new non-profit (that I am convinced will never exist) were elected democratically (like buying one ticket entitles you to one vote)... maybe it could be possible that our culture could be more relevant then any of us could ever possibly imagine. 

Yea... maybe that could be possible. 

thanks for the thinking...     chicken john    chickenjohn@chickenjohn.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. What a cop out. Really. You just wave your magic wand of words and say that what can&#8217;t be described shouldn&#8217;t be described. You package up with a bow the thing that you are explaining can&#8217;t be packaged up with a bow by describing how you can&#8217;t describe it. You have been hanging around with Larry too long. Maybe. </p>
<p>Maybe your right to do this. Say this. Maybe it&#8217;s your right. Maybe this is the right path. The Zen double speak everything is funny thing. But to defy convention, to chuck all the thinking that got us to this place&#8230; the place where we have to build a thing that defies explanation to untangle convention and stasis&#8230; but shurly we can do better. Maybe. </p>
<p>Maybe. Maybe a cop out is what we need. A quick bla bla so we can keep doing whatever it is we do. Maybe this well written, comic, gentle report is too much like the dreaded Larryspeak vomitose-vapid-abyss-doubletalk that has strung along a generation of people excited to change the world only to find that in order to do that we need a strong visionary leader who is intelligent and actually likes people and participates in the culture that he/she is a cheerleader of. </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not. Maybe this is a great essay. Maybe Caveat can lead us! Maybe these words solve all our problems, and allow BM to be more then a good job for 30 people and Caveat can be the funny, fun, charming leader guy that we&#8217;ve needed for 20 years&#8230; maybe. Maybe this is the break we&#8217;ve been waiting for. </p>
<p>Maybe. </p>
<p>Maybe there are too many fucking maybe&#8217;s in this. Maybe there is too much ambiguity. Maybe we need, no, maybe we DESERVE solid answers. Solid commitments. Absolutes. But absolutes are the opposite of possibility&#8217;s. And that is exactly what Burning Man is: an engine of possibility. And a pretty big one at that. </p>
<p>Burning Man is a populist art gathering that manifests as an engine of possibility created by a templet for unrestricted generosity outside of commerce. </p>
<p>There. I said it. </p>
<p>I for one can hardly wait for the regime change, if it happens at all (which I bet it won&#8217;t). It will be so great if the people who were running BM were fun. Young and fun. They won&#8217;t let it happen, of course. They will control it to the very last, and set it up so it&#8217;s still somehow under their control even after they pass. </p>
<p>But if this essay is part of the new thinking at BM, I&#8217;m in. If this is the person who is talking to the press, that&#8217;s great. If we can only get this guy to talk to Time Magazine maybe people wouldn&#8217;t be embarrassed by the leadership of the culture we all built together. A culture of liberty and expression and tolerance unlike the world has ever known. </p>
<p>If only we had a proper constitution and the board members of the new non-profit (that I am convinced will never exist) were elected democratically (like buying one ticket entitles you to one vote)&#8230; maybe it could be possible that our culture could be more relevant then any of us could ever possibly imagine. </p>
<p>Yea&#8230; maybe that could be possible. </p>
<p>thanks for the thinking&#8230;     chicken john    <span class="emailShroud_protectedAddress" id="sto_emailShroud0" >chickenjohn<span class="emailShroud_transformedAddress"> here: chickenjohn (at) chickenjohn.com</span></span>
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		<title>By: Dorji Tsering Sherpa</title>
		<link>http://blog.burningman.com/2011/06/spirituality/confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-22610</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorji Tsering Sherpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A teaching during Vipassana meditation says&quot;

Strive Ardently oh man and Burn
Purity comes from Burning away the Dross
Gold must pass through crucible in order to be refined.&quot;

BURNING MAN TO ME MEANS THE ABOVE WORDS.

THANK YOU./]]></description>
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<p>Strive Ardently oh man and Burn<br />
Purity comes from Burning away the Dross<br />
Gold must pass through crucible in order to be refined.&#8221;</p>
<p>BURNING MAN TO ME MEANS THE ABOVE WORDS.</p>
<p>THANK YOU./
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		<title>By: mscot</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When people asking me, I show them photos of Bliss Dance. To me, that work of art sums it all up perfectly.]]></description>
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